i’ll be using an online fax service to fax from Australia and am set on doing everything right. We were going to camp out? Climbed Clouds Rest – yes, fantastic views that we were able to take in before the smoke moved in. I faxed our last attempt the afternoon of March 18th. It’s an incredible experience, and I’m here to answer any questions you might have as you start your prep. Tom – Yes. -Kristen, Thanks for all the information you’ve provided here. This trail has exploded in popularity so getting a permit can be a challenge. Thanks To protect access for other hikers and preserve the quality of the JMT experience, Yosemite National Park implemented an exit quota in 2015. Are you able to confirm that is still the case? We would like to trade for same itinerary in mid to late July. Regarding your comment about Sunrise Creek…this is what I just pulled from the Yoesmite website: Fax went in the day before, 4pm-ish but I recall reading you can send up to 7:30am the day of the lottery. Keep me posted on your JMT plans, and if you have questions, let me know. You also need to list your JMT trip length on your application, which is the total number of days you plan to be on the trail. Start planning now! I assume that can’t happen because I am committing to my first night in the opposite direction? I’m not actually sure about that…and I’m currently in New Zealand so I have no way of confirming. -Kristen. I just got back into the country after traveling around in NZ and Asia for some time and am stoked to be back and exploring the mountains of the States once again. So in anticipation of not getting that permit we figured we would start at Mono/Parker pass and then exit the trail at Kearsarge/Onion valley (Whitney is not totally necessary). So the summit is optional but it would be a shame to not do it. I do not have a permit as I just decided to do this a couple weeks ago. http://hikethru.com/hiking-information/about-the-jmt-1/permits, Hi Kirsten, I submitted mine today. Hey Ned – Hope you got the permit! I’m not totally clear on the permit process from Mt. I’m a little confused by your question as afar as the quota system. Guidance would be appreciated. Hi there! We met the next people coming up at the bottom of the cables as we were coming down. For that reason and to see some new territory, I chose Sunrise Lakes. Don’t worry about the date you will exit via Donahue Pass. Sorry, I thought I typed that correctly. Hey Kristen! What other questions do you have about the John Muir Trail permit process? First of all, I wish you a Happy New Year, with a lot of new experiences. How many miles is the hike from Sunrise Lakes trailhead until you meet up with the JMT? *Note: The Tenaya Lake Starting Trailhead is now listed as Tioga Road (includes May Lake) on the application. Check out this link to see info pertaining to the different trailheads: This is a land of 13,000-foot and 14,000-foot peaks, of lakes in the thousands, and of canyons and granite cliffs. Sounds like it would be easier to obtain a permit leaving the 3 kids behind and just enjoying it with my wife. can’t wait to hear about it. I do have one question. Nick. We ended up submitting ten applications (one for each of us five times) before we received a reservation. Do you have any advice or thoughts around this? Alex, hey Alex – I updated the post. Now waiting to see. Awesome news Jon! The permit is only $5….cool huh! The John Muir Trail is also a land blessed with the mildest, sunniest climate of any major mountain range in the world. Andre. And I’d really appreciate if you could let me know what they say so I can update the post. Will we need to stay the night in Lee Vining (our planned change off the Eastern Sierra) or does YARTS run in the afternoon too? I hope you get a permit! From Tuolumne Meadows exiting the park: Lyell Canyon Thank\’s for your great job. I think that’s why there’s that question on the form. I heard that 2016 is very difficult to apply. Hi Kristen, Carlin, Frank! The views were incredible and are considered some of the best in all of Yosemite. You can submit one application for a range of dates up to three weeks (21 days) long. Plus it’s unfair to everyone else who is applying and following the one application per person rule. We will be starting our trip from Sunrise Lake. The trail drops you right at the Ranger Station in beautiful Le Conte Canyon. For granted reservation requests, a non-refundable processing fee of $5.00 per person plus $5.00 per transaction is due. ), then watched Mile Mile and Half (from Netflix). Check out this chart to see when the lottery occurs for a particular start date. Is it too early in the year yet to find out how the JMT walk-up permit in Lyell Canyon has been working? This blog is a huge help, thank you! Do you feel like I should be ok with going into October? I have sent today my application to start my hike on 17june or 18 june 2017 from Happy Isles – Sunrise creek. Planning ahead can be helpful, generally starting about six months in advance. The time used to be 5pm, but they recently changed it to 12pm. “Happy Isles to Little Yosemite Valley, Happy Isles pass-through, Glacier Point to Little Yosemite Valley, and Sunrise Lakes trailheads: Permits for 20 people, all of which are available by reservation.” My understanding is that camping at Sunrise Creek falls under the Happy Isles pass-through.” Have you been told otherwise by the Park Service? Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Nam eu neque vulputate diam rhoncus faucibus. Thanks and good luck with the permit! Hi Kristen! Hi Kristin – my plans were to go into Lyell Canyon, backtrack to Cathedral Lakes, then head out. Thank you so much for you information! You do not need an additional permit to summit Mt. Considering im not getting a permit for the yosemite Section? Enjoy New Zealand! And another person said: “showed up yesterday at 10:30 a.m. and once 11 a.m. hit, had a permit for Lyell over Donahue in just a few minutes. You don’t need a separate permit for Clouds Rest…you can just drop you bags at Sunrise Lakes and head up on a day hike. my mail adress is [email protected] thank you my friends. I discovered the power of the outdoors in my 20s, at the time I needed it most. -Kristen, Hi. Unfortunately, I really don’t know much about YART, but after taking a quick look, my question is whether you’ve thought about flying into Fresno. How exciting! Is this the only way to get a permit for Donohue Pass and eventual Whitney Summit! A second look at Yosemite’s site and this looks like its correct. Thanks! Hey Taylor – Yes. It appears I need to fill in 3 entry point choices for the same date, correct? The form asks for my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd date choices, yet you can only apply 268 days in advance. Go to Reservations.org, select permits (not camping), then Look at Inyo Permits. Katie Albritton completed Thousand Island Lake via Rush Creek Trail. As far as multiple people applying for permits, you only have to list your own name on the application, so technically it is ok for other people in your group to submit an application (I haven’t found anything on Yosemite’s website that says this is not allowed). if you want to exit the Whitney portal, you will go over the saddle. The John Muir Trail (JMT) (Paiute: Nüümü Poyo, N-ue-mue Poh-yo) is a long-distance trail in the Sierra Nevada mountain range of California, passing through Yosemite, Kings Canyon and Sequoia National Parks. Hi Kristen, I live in Belgium and nobody around me did the JMT or that kind of trip. Check out our blog post: How to Pack for a Multi-Day Backpacking Trip https://bearfoottheory.com/how-to-pack-a-backpacking-pack/. Any info on if it’s super difficult. One person told me: “I was just in Yosemite last week and the ranger at the Wilderness Center said most walkups had been getting what they wanted but not all. We’re still waiting on the details of this second lottery for 2021, but all of the information will be available on the Yosemite Conservancy website as the summer approaches. If you start here, you are in for a tough climb your first day, but you will pass some of Yosemiteâs most iconic landmarks including Nevada Falls, Vernal Falls, and the junction to Half Dome. You only need one permit for the entire trip and how you obtain your permit depends on which trailhead you will use to access the John Muir Trail. The agency regulating these trailheads is Inyo National Forest. Hi Kristen! I am not doing the whole trail but it would break my heart to not hike out of Yosemite, plan to leave the trail at Piute Pass. Second, it avoids the brutal climb out of Yosemite Valley. Have fun! If I donât receive an email before 7:30 AM tomorrow (cutoff time) do I presume there was an error and try again? Hey Kristen, Your site decrypted it all for me so I want to say THANK YOU! Beautiful photos! http://www.yosemiteconservancy.org/wilderness-permits-details, http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sierra/passes/getwildpermit.shtml, http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/inyo/recreation/wild/whitneyavail.shtml. Your site has been an absolute Godsend and is the best/most detailed account I’ve come across in my research. Thanks again! Thanks! This is so helpful! Do some even wait two days if they are unsuccessful on the first day? John Muir Trail permits go quickly. Good luck with the permit process! I think the best thing you can do is call the rangers station in Yosemite and ask for their advice. The first is a start date is between May 15th and June 5th. My wife and I were really angling starting our hike from Aug 15-20, but our permits didn’t get through. Is it 20 hikers or 20 permits a day per 4 trailheads? charleston, or any where else close? Pacific time. If you end up missing the deadline for the lottery for the date you want to start hiking, check the Full Trailheads Report on this page before you submit your application to see which dates are full for which trailheads. The Sunrise Lakes trailhead begins at the bottom of Tenaya Lake, a 15-minute drive west from Tuolumne Meadows on Tioga Pass Road. I don’t want to rush on the trail just to avoid snow. * indicates there is no pass between entry point and JMT junction) d f Pass n s ton Baxter Pass (Independence) 6,000 ft. 12,270 ft. 10,200 ft. 8 13 This trailhead brings hikers past Illilohuette, Nevada, and Vernal Falls, and offers vast views of Yosemite Valley. I missed the window for the advance permits, so this is my only option, but it would be nice to get a sense of just how brutal this is going to be. The park ranger said they do not have plans to start clearing Tioga Road until June 1 of this year (2016), making shuttle services to this trailhead unavailable till that time. Thank you so much for your great information on JMT. I would recommend staying there the night before your hike and then taking the free park shuttle to the Tenaya Lake/Sunrise Lakes trailhead. BTW: Saw your profile and saw that you are in henderson thats so cool because we live up in summerlin. I’ve hike Whitney many times, but only been to Yosemite once (odd, I know). Most of the climbs and descents are switchbacks on a well defined path, so there is no risk of falling. Hi Carlin, Highlights: Waterfalls. Good luck! First of all, set a reminder for yourself 24 weeks in advance, if possible. very insightful post, I am now considering the Sunrise lakes option because Cloud’s Rest was a sight I would definitely see again! If you want to do Half Dome you should come from Little Yosemite Valley. I am excited. If I don’t win a lottery spot and try for the walk-up, just how early do people start waiting in line? Thank you so much for sharing your experiences, you did a great job. Please confirm we’ve understood correctly (sort of just wanting a stamp of approval from someone haha) – On the other hand, it could discourage people from taking a chance. http://hikethru.com/hiking-information/about-the-jmt-1/permits I got rejected for all three dates for all three requested trailheads. However, due to COVID-19, no John Muir Trail walk-up permits will be available in 2021. http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/trailheads.htm Once you submit your application you will receive an email notification confirming that your JMT permit request has been received. The basic rule is that you get your permit at the entry trailhead, and it is honored throughout all the other "jurisdictions" that you pass through. Is it do-able to stay the first night at Sunrise Camp, back track to do half dome the second day, and then continue on? If you choose to start your hike from Happy Isles, spending your first night at Sunrise Creek is preferable, although it’s a little ways past the junction to Half Dome. Hi, Christina! I was about to give up planning a trip from Tuolumne to the Devils Postpile because I was overwhelmed by the 2020 permit information regarding Donahue Pass. Just an extra cold layer? When you are filling this out, you should list your desired JMT entry trailheads in order of preference. Thanks so much! Great blog and very helpful! First of all, set a reminder for yourself 24 weeks in advance, if possible. If apply online two days before the 24-week lottery application time, should I apply at 12:01 a.m. two days before? Great site. Do you happen to know anything about a NOBO permit? Camping spots for the first night on the permit are Little Yosemite Valley or Sunrise/Merced Lake. As it goes in all of the destinations we share, please practice good trail etiquette and remember to Leave No Trace. Thank you! If you have any other questions let me know! Question on the application regarding ‘plan to exit Yosemite over Donahue Pass?’ Which YES do you check? In terms of your dates, late May / early June could be doable, but it depends on how much snow the Sierras get that year. It seems closer and the public transit seems easier. Hey Kristen! In a normal year, 60% of permits are allocated through a lottery while 40% are reserved for walk-ups. Awesome blog, thanks for being so thorough, however I have one question pertaining to your last comment. And finally do we pick up our permit the day we plan to begin JMT or the day prior? I literally found all the entry points on other sites, asked other JMT hikers what the best stretches were (like Kristen – Thanks! Hi! I’m looking into doing the second part of the JMR (if that’s still possible as I don’t have any permits yet ð this August)…sorry we Australians we are always a little behind! Thanks. I am so pumped. So I’m not seeing the two alternative limitation. Sandra (from Sydney!). You know I’m really not sure. Would it be more likely to obtain permits northbound or southbound? Glad to hear you are considering the JMT. It is so informative! Thanks for the compliment on my site, and I’m glad the info has been helpful. My one question for you is – if another friend wants to meet us for a quick weekend of hiking and camping on the trail, do we need to include that friend on our permit applications? If you do receive a permit you will be sent a link to pay online, and you must pay within 48 hours. Ben – Best of luck! I’m a Canadian so planning holidays and travel times is difficult to make this work. The John Muir Trail is the premier hiking trail in the United States.The trail starts in America's treasure, Yosemite National Park, and continues 215 miles through the Ansel Adams Wilderness, Sequoia National Park, King's Canyon National Park, and ends at the highest peak in continental United States, Mount Whitney at 14,496 ft. Do we need to find another individual to fill her spot? -Kristen. Praying that I get a permit!! From the Lyell Canyon trailhead, the first 10 miles of trail is completely flat, giving you an easy first day to warm up. Search for a permit from Horseshoe Meadows saying \”visiting Whitney\”, not \”exiting Whitney\”. And the park recently changed it so you can submit your application by fax any time the day prior to the lottery. Half Dome is out of the way. There are several access points just south in the Ansel Adams Wilderness. I would call them directly to check. If you want to actually summit Half Dome, make sure to check the appropriate box when you submit your online application as a separate permit is needed. Check out the books, Sierra North and Sierra South for some great hikes that cover parts of the JMT. I assume for most of you reading this JMT Permit blog post, the answer is no. I would like to hike HI to Tuolumne this summer to âcompleteâ the hike. I was hoping to hike the JMT with some friends late August/early September of this year. The Yosemite Conservancy is the agency that makes reservations for trailheads in Yosemite National Park. Does that make sense? Thanks for letting me know and you’ll have to come back and tell me about your hike. You do an amazing job at clearly sifting through what can be very confusing situations. It could be a little late if we have snow in Sept/Oct but it really just varies. Incredibly helpful for planning this trip! This is super helpful! – we will can pick up our permit the day before at the Tuolume Meadows Rangers Station In the case that you both get the permit, then you can just call the ranger and cancel one of them so it opens the spot for someone else. 20 (total) will be available through the advanced lottery for JMT hikers leaving from Happy Isles, Glacier Point, or the Tioga Road Trailheads. Thanks so much for the awesome site loaded with great suggestions and information! I’m not sure, but I think things will be less busy once it starts to get into school season. Do you have any insight/advice about doing the JMT in the northbound direction (which would supposedly be easier to get permits for?). That being said, the permit application process has changed over the last couple of years, so it’s important to read up on what you need to do to secure your JMT permit. Love your instagram feed by the way. I’ll be sure to update the post if that’s the case. One of the great things about the John Muir Trail is that you can start in Yosemite National Park, and get your permit for the whole trip. My timeframe for the JMT is pretty open, hoping for a start date in late Aug to mid Sept. Crampons? The reservation is what costs you, the permit is free. We will hit the trail in about 15 days, eek!, and will pick up whatever info we can for you and forward it along upon our return, end of August. The SOBO John Muir Trail permit Application called, a Yosemite Wilderness Permit, is run via a lottery system due to the hike/area’s popularity. If your permit request is denied, can you not just apply again immediately after getting notification you’ve been denied for that particular day? 1 day earlier will already be allocated in the lottery. That’s how they tell the difference between people hiking just in Yosemite and thru-hikers. You have a talent and know exactly what to take a best pictures out from your view. It really varies season by season–you’ll have to check with resupply locations individually as their closure dates change yearly. I can be flexible about the start date but my concern is where I could stay the nights until I obtain the permits. I compare for months differents posts to try to figure out how to hike the JMT. Hi Benjamin – The way it’s written on Yosemite’s website is a bit confusing. 2) Yes – there is a free campground that JMT hikers can stay at. HI Kristen, great blog. As a side note, we wanted to apply for a JMT permit from the Inyo entering Rush Creek and exiting Whitney, but we can’t secure that until the exit day arrives, and the Rush Creek trail quotas are already full. I am planning my trip now for July of 2017 and though the process may change I am filling out the permit to get an idea of everything. We hope you get the permit! At the latest, your fax must received by 7:30am on the 7th in order to be included in the lottery. JMT or the Winds..either way you’ll have an awesome trip. Furthermore, without a permit system in place, the JMT would be overrun with people. keep hiking and keep posting, Yay Craig! Thanks for the insightful post! First recommendation – Follow Kristen’s instructions on this site to a tee. Do you know when they start accepting faxes. Hi Kristen, great blog! Starting at Happy Isles, the two options for the first nightâs campsite are Little Yosemite Valley or Sunrise/Merced Lake pass-through. Hey Ryan – I did some digging and have been hearing that people are getting walk up permits for Lyell Canyon out of Tuolumne without too much trouble. I am a solo female hiker. The exit quota helps the park address access and resource concerns until a comprehensive approach can be developed through the wilderness stewardship planning process. I’ll keep an eye out to see if it comes back online. Any advice helps, 60% of permits for most access trails can be reserved online ahead of time, and 40% are available on a walk-in basis beginning at … Hi Kristen, There are some true veterans in there, and I bet if you ask in their forums, you might get the answer you are looking for. Thanks for the great site. Choose your Desired State Date. Tuolumne Meadow, store, mail, bus stop for YARTS bus (Highway 120). Do we need to stop in Tuolumne Meadows for our reserved permit? 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